Legal Debate Over Kildare Mansion Fence Met With Support From Neighbors

HUNTSVILLE, Ala. (WHNT) – If the grandeur of the Queen Anne castle-style architecture of the former McCormick Estate on Kildare Street, also known as Kildare Mansion in north Huntsville wasn’t enough to make passersby on Oakwood Avenue stop in their tracks to gawk – a new feature emerged late last year, certainly contributing to the home’s wow factor.

In October 2013, the owner of the 17,000 square foot 40-room mansion finished in 1889 — in an effort to preserve privacy – began building a massive fence around the property.

One WHNT News 19 viewer emailed calling the structure an “abomination,” asking how the structure could possibly be allowed.

In July 2013, the city of Huntsville entered into a license agreement with McCormick Estate property owner Dwight Wright. The property is subject to city right-of-way down the east boundary of the property along Kildare Street. The agreement indicates Wright submitted a formal request to the city council which granted him the ability to construct a fence along the city right-of-way in order to ‘secure the property and prevent trespassing.’

Wright had the city’s blessing to construct the fence as stipulated in the survey map along the boundary of the 1.14 acre lot.

The agreement in no way stipulated a specific or acceptable height of the fence. In fact, owners say they went to great lengths to contact every city entity imaginable to ensure – before embarking on the investment for construction – that the fence was in accordance with every city building ordinance.

Owner Dwight Wright discusses the plight of the Kildare Mansion (PHOTO: David Wood, WHNT)

Owner Dwight Wright discusses the plight of the Kildare Mansion (Photo: David Wood/ WHNT News 19)

“Before I built the fence I went through every city department that I could think of that would have jurisdiction over fences and checked all the ordinances to make sure that what I had planned and what had been designed was indeed in compliance with city fence ordinances,” Wright reminds.

However, City Engineer Shane Davis says when the city entered into a use agreement with the Mr. Wright, they assumed the structure would be more like a four-foot decorative picket fence – not a towering battlement parapet, as some have characterized the fence.

Davis said last October the city entered into a stop motion order on the project and that work would be stopped. “It will come down,” Davis said at the time.

The fence did not come down. In fact, construction continued to include a massive gate which encloses the property’s entrance/driveway.

One look at the facade of the grand structure situated amid modest homes on Kildare Street in north Huntsville and it’s easy to understand.

Kildare, as it was first called, rewards modern visitors with an exuberant visual display of towers, turrets, tall chimneys, projecting pavilions, porches, bays and encircling verandas.

But most of those visitors certainly do not exhibit or reciprocate the gentility and poise typical of the Victorian Era.

Owner Dwight Wright says almost as well documented as the mansion’s illustrious and storied past, are the incidents of disrespect aimed toward the home and its current occupants.

“We’ve had people show up and throw rocks at the house, we’ve had people show up and throw rocks at us – they’ve threatened our lives,” Wright laments.

Some of those rocks damage the roof’s slate tile.

“Two weekends ago when it rained, we had a new leak.”

Wright says he understand some want to stop just to admire the architecture. But due to the continued problems, and the serious nature of those problems, Kildare’s residents say they remain on constant guard in their own home.

“We can’t tell if those people are just coming by to admire it or if they’re the next person to throw rocks or make a threat against us.”

Hence – the fence.

After the city council unanimously approved the license agreement in 2013 granting Wright the go-ahead for construction – and following the city’s subsequent qualms regarding the fence’s height – council members then brought up the issue of liability.

“Peter Joffrion, the city attorney, had stated many times publicly that they were concerned about the city liability.  He expressed that they were worried if a car hit it, it was so strongly constructed that it wouldn’t break away and also worried that it wasn’t strong enough that if we had a storm that it could blow over and injure someone on the street.”

Wright then learned that he could add the city on a $500,000 liability policy – more liability insurance that the city would have actually carried – thinking that would address the issue and become part of the mutual agreement.

But the battle forges on; the Kildare fence issue was most recently continued as an agenda item at last week’s city council meeting.

“Negotiations are still going on, we’re still trying to work toward a solution that’s going to make everyone happy and I feel like we’re going to get there – it’s just going to take some give and take,” Wright says optimistically.

Wright says aside from constant harassment from passersby and spectators, there is much more history behind his struggle to construct a privacy fence – going all the way back to when Kildare Street itself was established in 1932.

Original city right-of-way was designed around a traffic triangle that was proposed for Kildare Street at the intersection of Swanson Drive. Though Kildare Street never saw that triangle, the right-of-way intended to allot for the feature was never amended.

Wright, who bought Kildare in 2007, has actually been attempting to build a fence in front of the property along the paved road for several years.

“Actually it started in 2009 when I learned the right-of-way was so unusual in front of this house,” Wright explains. “It actually cuts a diagonal across the front yard and at the northern end of the property – the end away form the major intersection – it’s actually more than 30 feet from the paved road.”

Wright says the issue actually affects dozens of Kildare Street residents who technically own little to none of their own front yards per original plot lines.

“As you continue north down Kildare, people actually own less and less of most would consider to be their front yard.”

That would explain the petition submitted to Mayor Tommy Battle and members of Huntsville City Council signed by 49 neighbors in support of the McCormick Estate fence.

The petition header reads:

“We, the undersigned, are citizens who urge our leaders to continue to support the construction of the fence, as it is currently designed, that surrounds the Historic McCormick House located at 2005 Kildare Street. We are supportive of the current owners’ restoration efforts and believe that having a fence in the location specified in the license agreement made between the owner and the city of Huntsville is vital to saving this property. In addition to it state and national significance, this historic structure is a very important part of our neighborhood and we urge you to help protect and secure this asset. We feel having the currently designed fence in the current location helps to eliminate a multitude of problems that have affected the entire neighborhood over the past several years. We believe the current design is necessary to combat the growing problems and to protect this structure, its occupants, and the other residents in this area. The fence improves the quality of life for the entire neighborhood while creating no new problems.”

Neighbor Dee Johnson has lived on Kildare Street for several years and says she has had plenty of run-ins with malicious visitors to the Kildare Estate.

“I did community watch here and had to chase not only teenagers but adults off from stopping and throwing rocks at the house.”

Former neighbor Mandie Hodges and her family used to live directly across the street from the mansion. She says she’s watched drivers cut donuts in the Kildare yard and that one particularly dangerous close call was the final straw. Once, Hodges says one of her girls was almost hit by a recklessly gawking driver.  Due to the constant disturbances, the Hodges family decided to relocate.

“I have three little girls and it was not safe for them to play in the front yard because as people looked over they would drive into my yard.  They would park in my side yard and yell obscenities over to the Kildare house.”

Peggy Parker was raised in the neighborhood – the Kildare home a staple of her childhood memories. She says she hopes the petition will send a strong enough message to members of city council.

“I think it speaks for the neighbors who are really concerned,” says Parker. “If you’re not concerned enough to be outspoken and to speak what you feel – don’t complain about it.”

Many have shown up at council meetings to do just that on behalf of the estate owners.

“A big thing is realizing why this tall fence is actually needed,” says Dwight Wright. “There’s a real problem – the house is still being vandalized and a tall fence is needed to protect it – it’s just a necessity at this point.”

Last week Huntsville City Council President Mark Russell – whose district the Kildare House lies in – told WHNT News 19, “We want the two parties to negotiate; we want the administration and Dwight Wright to negotiate and come up with a reasonable solution.”

The Kildare House fence debate is scheduled to be back on the city council agenda Thursday, June 26.

History of the Kildare Mansion

History by Diane Ellis and Maureen Drost of ‘The History Huntsville Quarterly’

Artists rendering of completed Kildare House

Artist’s rendering of completed Kildare House

Just off Oakwood Avenue, about a block northwest of that busy thoroughfare’s intersection with Meridian Street, stands a grand 19th-century mansion considered to be one of the finest Queen Anne-style residences in Alabama. This extraordinary three-story house was built in the 1880s for northern businessman Michael O’Shaughnessy, who was moving, with his wife and five children, from Mrs. O’Shaughnessy’s family home in Nashville to pursue busi­ness ventures in Huntsville.  O’Shaughnessy named his new house and the property’s 71 acres Kildare, in honor of the Irish county where he was born in 1833.

From the beginning, Kildare drew widespread interest from local newspapers and the public. In October 1886 the Huntsville Democrat reported on the building’s construction, observing that “Major O’Shaughnessy’s residence on the Meridianville Pike is progressing finely, already its proportions are beginning to show up handsomely, the walls of one story being nearly completed.” A few months later the rival Huntsville Mercury declared that “In every detail, no residence in the county will surpass [the house].”

And when the mansion was completed in 1887, a reporter for the Huntsville Independent toured O’Shaughnessy’s new house and described what he saw: “A week ago we had the pleasure of going through the summer residence built here by Mr. O’Shaughnessy, and we could not but admire the taste displayed in the furnishings. … The parlors, dining room and bedrooms are nicely but richly furnished, and the modern conveniences prove that wealth has been scattered with a lavish hand. For miles in every direction, broad drives are being laid off.”

Three years later, The Huntsville Independent was still singing the praises of the O’Shaughnessy mansion when one of its reporters compared Kildare to an ancient castle because of its massiveness.

Perhaps as fine a home as a gentleman of culture and artistic taste could desire is the home of Major M.J. O’Shaughnessy in the suburbs of Huntsville. The floors, casements, stairways, molding, and wood finishings of the house are of native wood that the Major has picked during the past eight years, and the sawings, dressings, and molding are of his own design and under his personal supervision. In the forty rooms, each is furnished in exquisite taste in the native Alabama timber of different kind and grain.

In the basement are the breakfast rooms, pantry, kitchen boiler room, and smoking [room]. On the first floor are parlors furnished in ebony and gold; another room is a symphony in brown. The ceiling decorations of hand painting and the stained glass of special shades all unite to add pleasure to the senses. The upper floor is conveniently arranged in bedrooms, billiard rooms, and observatories.

If the newspapers of the day engaged in unabashed boosterism and were inclined to worship at the altar of wealth and power, Kildare nevertheless merited their enthusiastic approval. O’Shaughnessy’s decision to build his dream house in the Queen Anne style was a highly unusual choice for his time and place. The mansion that resulted from that decision was a unique design marvel, hardly the sort of Victorian-era residence one would have expected to see in the rural Deep South of the late 1880s,” as architecture historian Robert Gamble has observed. One can understand how interest in Kildare— and in the man who could envision and afford such a showplace—kept pace with the construction of the mansion as it took shape in late19th-century Huntsville.

“Queen Anne” as a term applied to building design in our country is something of a misnomer. Architecture historian John J. G. Blumenson, who gives the years between 1880 and 1900 as the style’s heyday, explains that the style “.. .as manifested in America has little if anything to do with the architecture of the English Queen’s time. It is the first thing that comes to many peoples’ minds when a ‘Victorian mansion’ is mentioned.”

For many people, Queen Anne architecture continues to hold a special fascination. Part of this attraction lies in the nostalgic familiarity of large Queen Anne houses that recall the settings of favorite children’s stories, especially ones set in English mansions with nannies, secret passage­ ways, and things that go bump in the night. At an adult level, it is the Queen Anne style’s complex harmony of varied designs and materials that engages the imagination. Intriguingly busy buildings, they neverthe­less project a serious wholeness that commands respect. Reactions to Queen Anne houses may be as varied as the designs and materials of the houses themselves: amusement, astonishment, bewilderment, delight— but never indifference.

Blumenson calls the Queen Anne “…a most varied and decoratively rich style. The asymmetrical composition consists of a variety of forms, textures, materials and colors. Architectural parts include towers, turrets, tall chimneys, projecting pavilions, porches, bays and encircling verandahs. The textured wall surfaces occasionally are complemented by colored glass panels in the windows. Elements and forms from many styles are manipulated into an exuberant visual display.”

Modern visitors to Kildare are indeed rewarded with an exuberant visual display, the product of a happy marriage between stately yet spirited design and superb application of diverse building materials. Queen Anne houses, hardly the shrinking violets of the architectural styles garden, have staying power, and Kildare, a superb representative of the style’s qualities, can still inspire the kind of respect and admiration it received more than a hundred years ago.

 

26 comments

  • Nonnie Mouse

    I don’t understand. why should this fence be anyone’s business but the man who’s trying to protect his home? does this mean that I have to get aesthetic permission to build a fence on my home also?

    • Bobby Ray

      They made it our business Because Dwight and Delila REFUSE to build the fence on their own property; they are demanding a large front yard and building the fence on the City property at the edge of the street.

      Delila is selling off the architectural things inside the mansio for money. She wants the fence so she can start selling off the exterior architectural items and begin to dismantle the house without being caught. By the time anyone figures out what she is doing, the haouse will have been sold piece by piece through Architectural Accents in Cullman and through the archtectural salvage places in Chattanooga, Nashville, and Atlanta. Befor eit is all said and done, Delila will let one of her cigarettes catch the bed on fire so the whole place burns down and Dwight will try to collect the insurance m oney.

      Come on people, stop being foolish and buying into the lies and deceit that Delila and Dwight are promoting. They are NOT preserving the house; they are panwing the whole thing off for money. God only knows what else they are hiding in the cellar to make to sell for money…

      • Ronnie

        Do they own the property? Do they own the rights to everything inside and outside? IF they do then they can do with it as they please. If you dont like how someone conducts their PRIVATE affairs then buy the property from them. If the city wants to preserve it then they can buy it from them and make it a local attraction.

        As long as it is privately owned BACK OFF.

      • Bobby Ray

        They DO NOT own the property where they are building the fence. The property where the fence is located is owned by the City of Huntsville.

        Come on people, … learn what the real issue is here. Delila wants a great bid ole yard. Dwight is her hand-puppet. Delila wants to build a wall to shut out the world so she can live there without having to pay taxes or own up to the fact that she invested her money in it with Dwight. She also wants cigarette money, so she s selling off the house piece by piece

        Ronnie, IF they owned the property where they are building the fence, even Peter Joffrion, the City Attorney, says they could do it. HOWEVER, they DO NOT own the propoerty where the fence is being built. You are right that they can sell off the house piece by piece, but that violates the argument that they are trying to resotre the property and should scare off all the neighbors that are supporting the abomination of a 16 foot wood-wall. None of those neighbors are gonna like it when Delila starts cooking meth in the cellar to pay for her “renovations”.

        As far as backing off goes, you need to march your happy @$$ up to Delila and tell her to get off City Property and move back onto private property. My bet is that she will be more man than you can muster up to be yourself. ;-)

    • Linda Woodward

      Well, yeah, you DO need to get permission if you are going to violate city ordinances. And it has nothing to do with aesthetics.

  • Jim

    Well, the owners are not too friendly to anyone who drives by. I heard about the house several years ago and drove by and stopped and was looking from the street at the house and i hear this lady yelling out the window that the police have been called and its against the law to take a photograph of the home etc.. Pretty strange behavior. I can understand that there are some teenagers and others that have caused them some grief but to yell at everyone who stops and looks at the home from the street is a little much..Its a beautiful property. Its my understanding that the current property owners have stripped it of all its interior detailings and sold them to a antique salvage company there. Thats their perrogative but you would of thought the city would of tried to save that for a museum or something..I dont take issue with them having a fence, but that is one huge fence and I havent ever seen anything like it anywhere that I have lived. I would bet the city and the owners could arrive at some mutually acceptable solution. I ran into a similar issue when I was constructing a fence in a historic neighborhood in Charlotte, but mine was not about height just design which was ok earlier but changed just before I started construction..

    • A. Tucker

      My husband and I drove down the street and a woman that lived there was threatening to hit our car with a rock when we slowed down to admire the structure – he had never seen the castle – I agree very crazy behavior.

  • willis

    It’s always left up to someone else of what you can and can’t do.Let the man do as he please with his property. After all the city isn’t going to pay when someone brakes a window.

    • Bobby Ray

      If the fence was being built on his property, there would be no problem. However, the fence is being built on City Property … THAT”S WHAT’S WRONG HERE.

      Dwight and Delila want something for nothing. They also don’t want to follow the rules and regulations and the law.

      ALSO, if you look at the “agreement” Dwight presented to the City asking to build the fence on City Property, it clearly states that the City can back out of the agreement at anytime and will incur no liability form doing so, that Dwight must remove the fence at his own expense if/when the City declines to be a party to the agreement.

      Sounds like to me, that Dwight is not willing to live up to the agreement that he proposed.

      The City wants out and the agreement is over .. time for that monstrousity of a fortification to come down.

      If Dwight can keep Delila from taunting and irritating passers by, then nobody will have reason to yell or even drive by to see if Delila is hiding in the bushes to throw rocks or spray anybody with her hose.

  • eurekadog

    “…they assumed the structure would …” We all know what happens when one ASSUMEs, don’t we, Mr. Davis?

  • Troy

    I have live next door now for over two and half years, I have saw so many come by yelling, screaming at all hours of the night, I have called the cops myself, trying to help stop this none since. I think if they want a fence with panels to stop or even slow down the people who throw rocks, and tell them they will kills them, and bother the neighborhood let it be built. Its not hurting anyone and will help all involved.

  • Nuclear Mike

    The City is foprceably cleaning up one man’s yard and complaining now about a man who followed ALL the rules & regs!!!

    Keep the fence up Dude!!!

    • Linda Woodward

      He “conveniently” didn’t tell them it was going to be 15 feet high. So don’t say he was following “all the rules and regs.”

      The “rules and regs” protect your rights too, “Dude” But then, you must be of the redneck philosophy that says “Nobody is going to tell me what to do” just like them. Even if you are in violation of the law.

      And this is not some new thing. There have been ordinances about what you can and cannot do on your property ever since there have been incorporated cities.

  • Susan B.

    I drive Oakwood almost every day and had never seen the house (15 years living in 5 points) until I saw the construction of the fence. As soon as I saw the property I said AH-HAH, I would build a fence like that too if I owned that house in that neighborhood. Now that I know they have had issues with rubberneckers, less-than-desirables and vandals, I support the fence even more.

    Why is it that we have lost our rights to our own property, possessions and security? Is this fence hurting anyone? Has it hurt anyone? Did it threaten to hurt anyone? Is it built properly and safely for its size, location and purpose? Leave the fence and its owner alone until such a time that it has committed some crime against someone. Good god people how much longer are we going to continue being slaves to the city and state before we say enough. If you dont like the fence dont look at the fence. If the fence hurts your feelings put on your big boy panites and avoid the fence. If I could afford a fence like that I would have one built in a second around my little 5 points bungalow.

    Privacy has become as rare as rights and common sense. Build your fence.

    • Bobby Ray

      If Dwight and Delila were building the fence on their property, then it would be fine. THEY REFUSE TO LOCATE THE FENCE ON THEIR PROPERTY !!! They want to build the fence on CITY PROPERTY.

      As for making that guy in Five Points clean up his yard, it is a mess and needs to be tiddied up a bit. HOWEVER, I agree that they should not only make him clean up his property; they should also make all owners of vacant lots clean up their property, especially in subdivisions where hillside and mountain-side lots have been left in a state of scrub brush and rock. There are lots all over town where people and builders bought the lots but never built. Now there are people living in those neighborhoods but the snakes and critters and mosquitos are harboring refuge on those lots that went un-developed.

      What’s sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander.

      If Dwight and Delila get to keep their fence, I’m gonna build a fortification wall in front of my property too. ;-)

  • Dianna

    It seems that some people think this is a game to get the tenant to come out. I can understand their frustrations. The owners are trying to protect this landmark of Huntsville. They have every right to protect the property. Drive past, admire it, that’s fine. But be respectful. Honking the horn and blasting your music is disrespectful, especially at night. If you go look on YouTube a lot of people are doing this at night. The tenants are under instructions to call the police. Have respect people. You wouldn’t want someone invading your privacy.

    • Bobby Ray

      Dianna, it turns out that Delila actually loves the attention. When I knew her, she would “poke the bear” just to get her own form of entertainment. That is what she is doing now. She poked at the kids, threw rocks, sprayed people’s cars with the water hose, … just to instigate the controversy. Now she is using that to argue that she deserves the right to build a fence on City Property. If you let her build on your property, shame on you. If the City lets her build this fence on City Property, shame on them

  • Marie

    David Wood missed the heart of the story. Why did he totally omit the part of Delila throwing rocks at innocent passers-by? Why is he not asking how fire trucks could get access to respond to a structure fire if the house is burning? Why did he not ask Dwight about police or ambulance calls and getting access through the fence? Why did he not ask Dwight why they could not build a fence on their own property at the property line? Why not ask why they are spending money on a fence instead of repairing the roof? Why not ask Dwight if a normal person’s 6 foot fence with another two feet of decorative stuff at the top would be sufficient? Why let Dwight and Delila extort the city’s property for their gigantic fence when the rest of us would not be allowed to do the same? When the story of Delila is told to get to the story behind the fence, THEN is when the story will become clear and the truth will come out.

    • Ronnie

      People have privacy and security fencing around their properties all over the world. Do you think this is something new? The city will gain access if they need to just like they do in every other part of the world.

  • Katie

    Dwight & Delila left some parts out of the news story. She attacked my teen son who was jogging by and stopped to Instagram a picture. She hit him with a 2×4 and sprayed him in the face with wasp spray. He was across the street from the house. There are tons of stories like mine, so WHNT don’t portray them as victims. Delila is crazy and a threat to the community. She went to jail for throwing a hammer at a off-duty officer who was the victim! Report the whole truth!

    • Ronnie

      Okay sunshine maybe the fence is to keep the crazy lady IN and protect her from you all as much as you all from her. God what is wrong with all you busy bodies? Let the people build their fence. They got permission to build it from the city and now the city is acting like the victim in the deal. Like Susan B said above if you don’t like it STAY AWAY its none of your business anyway.

      • Bobby Ray

        I have no problem with a fence to keep the crazy people in their house and protected from harming us as long as they build it on their property (NOT ON CITY PROPERTY). As for that, I also advocate them being required to move the fence they installed on the curb along Oakwood; that is the dangerous one; if a car or truck has to drive near the edge of the road and ets near the curb, the mirror or anything extending off the bed of a truck will catch the wire fence they have installed and damage the car or truck and potentially anyone in it.

        Ronnie, you must be Dwight or Delila trying to plead a losing case; rules, regulations, and ordinances are in place because someone in the past has already demonstrated why doing these things is a bad idea. Dqight and Delila are encroaching on others because they have such little respect for society. That’s why Delila was arrested for throwing a rock into someone’s car when they were just driving by. Delila picked at the people who now taunt her; she deserves the grief that has come upon her and Dwight. Dwight is foolish enough to continue to condone her antics, so he deserves the grief too. I can’t believe that Mayfair Church of Christ continues to tolerate this kind of behavior out of Dwight … most churches encourage their deacons to behave better than that.

  • Katie

    Stay away??? So people shouldn’t ride their bikes, drive their cars, or walk down a public street? Really? Out of fear of “the beast” attacking them? You are right on one thing….the fence would keep her in and protect the public from Delila.

  • Linda Woodward

    Let some nut yell about his “rights” and more nuts come out from under all the rocks to rail about how our “rights” are being taken away from us. Go someplace where rights really ARE being violated and get involved there. This is about the LAW that has existed for decades.

    It has always been true that you can’t buy a piece of property, then conduct yourself in any way you like on it. When I was a girl, our street was incorporated into the city limits (not in Alabama) and the man down the street had to get rid of his pigpen that came right up to the street, and the hogs in it. Were his “rights” violated? Those of us who had to walk by and smell that stench and fight the flies on our way home from school were thrilled!

    When I first moved to Huntsville my sister took me to various landmarks and places of interest. One was the Kildare house. Now, here were two well-groomed, quiet, middle-aged ladies in a late-model car, driving slowly past this historic house, looking at the various architectural features, etc. , when a woman appears from the bushes videotaping us! I didn’t know anything about her, so I said, “We just wanted to see the house.” She started yelling at us, telling us it was on the internet, we could see it there, and we were on private property. I said, “This is a public street!” She said, “And you’re blocking it!” Well, we were not blocking anything. She made various comments about the police, etc. We knew we were doing nothing wrong, so that part didn’t worry us, but her demeanor was just scary.

    So when they paint themselves as victims, someone should ask them, “Why did people start bothering you? Maybe because YOU started the WHOLE THING!” People don’t just drive around Huntsville looking for a house to throw rocks at. SHE HARRASSES people who drive by, and they began to retaliate. No, I don’t condone anyone throwing rocks at the house, blowing horns, or anything else.

    But if you don’t want people to look at your house, as my daughter said, “DON’T BUY A LANDMARK!” People have the right to drive down any public street if they are driving and conducting themselves legally. And it is NOT illegal to take pictures of a house, as she claims.

    We hear stories all the time of people driving or walking by something interesting, stopping to look, and the owners coming out to greet them, tell them the history of the place, even sometimes inviting them in. While I certainly don’t think these people are obligated to do any of that, it certainly makes one wonder what they are trying to hide. Privacy? If I go out in my front yard, I don’t expect privacy from people who walk or drive by. If I want privacy, I go out in my back yard, or I draw my curtains if I’m inside.

    If someone drives across my lawn, yells, throws rocks, etc., of course I’ll call the police. But if they drive down the street — I’ll leave them alone just as I expect to be left alone if I drive down Kildare Street.

    If they would stop harassing people, the miscreants who are bothering them would no longer get any reward and would stop as well. In other words, THEY started it and now they are reaping what they sow. Again, DON’T REPLY to me that what people are doing is OK — it’s NOT. But what goes around, comes around, and now that it has come around they want it to stop.

    Oh, and if the city lets them build that fence, it has set a precedent. I don’t think that’s a good idea.

    • Susan B.

      You lost most of us when you started tossing around the “nut” thing. I find people that fail to recognize what inherent rights and privileges are always start accusing others of being “nuts”. You might want to read the founding documents again and then apply them to the laws that are in direct conflict with them. Just because there is a law does not mean the law is just. The law has nothing to do with justice in most cases. Imagine setting a precedent for right of ownership over opinion of nosey people that think they have more rights and influence than others.

      I see you have a problem with the owners but I still have trouble understanding why you are so opposed to the fence? Do you feel you have more rights to look and gawk than they do to privacy? Are you really that shallow and sensitive that you cant ignore the fence for 200 feet? It must be terrible to be so caught up in every one elses business that you cant take a breath, make peace with someone elses choices (EVEN IF YOU DISAGREE) and move along.

      I am going to take my own advice because getting upset with others choice of behavior and opinion is damaging to my well being…. see how that works? To bad more Americans cant figure that out.

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