Military Mom Pushes for Concealed Carry on Base: “All he could do was hide”

HUNTSVILLE, Ala. (WHNT) — The search for answers continues at Fort Hood, Texas, the scene of Wednesday’s shooting rampage. The shooter, Specialist Ivan Lopez, took his life after killing three and injuring at least 16 other people.

The shooting has reawakened a debate over gun control on Capitol Hill. WHNT News 19 spoke with one woman in the Tennessee Valley whose son was just 100 feet from the shooter that day. She is urging lawmakers to push for the right to carry concealed weapons on base. She said her son could have acted, if he had been armed.

“They started describing the buildings where these things were going on,” said Lynda Voyles-Konecny. “I knew exactly where my son was and where the shooter was because I’ve been at Fort Hood.”

Voyles-Konecny’s son, Jason, has been stationed there for the past 7 years. “He didn’t have a weapon to defend himself with,” she said. “It’s hard to talk about, had he had that weapon, I’m confident he would have taken out that shooter.”

They defend us overseas, but they’re defenseless at bases. She said she doesn’t understand the reasoning behind the law. “Well for one thing, they’re trained. They know rules of engagement, we send them off to war, they have their guns, they come home, and then they’re taken away from them on their homes bases,” she said. “They can’t defend their family, their coworkers, they can’t defend themselves.”

Voyles-Konecny said these men and women have been rendered helpless by policy she feels needs to be changed. She fears the issue will get swept under the rug and after 6 months, no one will remember to push for reform.

“I think we should have a dialogue to find out why and where we can improve,” she said. “I think we need to have a defense where you have at least two officers that can be armed in all buildings on all military installations.”

She said her entire family carries concealed weapons, but her own son who fights for our country, can’t defend himself.

“I’m in a better position to defend my family than he is, and that’s a shame.”

Leaders in the military have said that after this week’s shooting, it still stands by the policy of not allowing people to carry personal weapons on bases. Private weapons have been banned at military posts since 1993.

Added April 8, 2014: Link to view report on WHNT News 19’s YouTube channel

31 comments

    • Wake Up is a Troll !

      Trolling them gun news articles wake up? everyone needs to realize guns are like tires are you going to start blaming tires for drunk drivers are you going to blame a spoon for making people fat are you going to blame objects for actions of man? maybe you should stop reading BS news articles get off the internet and educate yourself . with either a law enforcement gun education course, or a shooters safety course so you can realize that they do not feel or think they are much like a screwdriver and just as deadly in the wrong hands. lets go boycott lowes now to stop the selling of screwdrivers so people dont get stabbed. your a f u c king idiot.

      • Wake Up

        I thought you would be afraid of the words from a fellow carry permit owner that told his story concerning his real life experience. People like you live in some Hollywood movie world of a time past where only the good guys win in gun battles. The rest of us, including Mr. Zamodio, live in the real world.

        Also, only internet trolls change their user names on multiple posts. That, my friend, is what you do.

      • Charley Vu

        “The rest of us, including Mr. Zamodio, live in the real world. ”

        The only measure of your success is that whether Zamodio gave up his permit after the incident. Which you don’t know.

        He also was in no position to intervene by the time the deed had been done.

        Frankly, the fact that he was able to discern his intended target was not the actual spree killer speaks more volumes about him and his background than you ever will. We need more responsible permit holders like Zamodio everywhere.

      • Wake Up

        Charley, the real world is a lot more messy than you make it sound. The more guns the messier it becomes. Just because Mr. Zamodio did it right does not mean all the additional carry permit owners would do it right. Also, he did not identify the target from his training. The unarmed citizens that took the shooter down yelled at him not to shot!

    • screw aarp

      The community organizer, found a far left news source, Chuck U Todd ,used the story on Morning Joe ,today. Barry and Valerie, are hard at work ,keeping the far left socialist media MSNBC, CBS, Huffington Post, up to speed.

    • screw aarp

      that should read ( liberal democrat) congress women ,Gifford. you left that part out , Mr. community organizer.

  • Ralph Connor Jr

    I’m an Army retiree. I am also employed as a Civilian on-base. I can tell you straightforward that what we do not need is every Soldier on base carrying a weapon. Yes, we were trained to go to battle against an armed enemy. But we were never trained to deal with our own falling apart on base… Quite frankly, having a weapon that would allow me to “take out” my battle buddy should heor she “pop a screw” runs totally contrary to what need within the ranks to buiild the cohesion that helps our Soldiers survive on the battlefield. If there’s no trust at home, there’ll be none on the battledfield.

    We need to leave this to trained law enforcement professionals. It is a law enforcement matter!

  • Ralph Connor Jr

    I’m an Army retiree. I am also employed as a Civilian on-base. I can tell you straightforward that what we do not need is every Soldier on base carrying a weapon. Yes, we were trained to go to battle against an armed enemy. But we were never trained to deal with our own falling apart on base… Quite frankly, having a weapon that would allow me to “take out” my battle buddy should he or she “pop a screw” runs totally contrary to what we need within the ranks to buiild the cohesion that helps our Soldiers survive on the battlefield. If there’s no trust at home, there’ll be none on the battlefield.

    We need to leave this to trained law enforcement professionals. It is a law enforcement matter!

    • Charley Vu

      “Quite frankly, having a weapon that would allow me to “take out” my battle buddy should he or she “pop a screw” runs totally contrary to what we need within the ranks to buiild the cohesion that helps our Soldiers survive on the battlefield. If there’s no trust at home, there’ll be none on the battlefield.”

      Then let me ask you this – in a police station, every single cop carries (or at least is permitted to carry their own firearm.

      Do you think there is very little cohesion in a police department, since it looks like (from your point of view) that every cop is armed to take out their “beat buddy” should they “pop a screw?”

      Cops are pretty much at the same risk of work-related stress and PTSD as soldiers, you know.

    • Charley Vu

      I believe your oath of enlistment does include “defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies foreign and domestic.” One of your own suddenly bent on killing you most certainly would fit the definition of a “domestic enemy.” You are failing to live up to your oath.

  • Liss Hébert Sterling

    Wake Up, dude. Yes, it’s POSSIBLE that an armed citizen *could* mistakenly shoot an innocent person, but I’ll take that risk over the certainty that the real shooter is going to purposefully shoot a LOT of innocent persons.

    I seriously don’t understand the logic of trusting our soldiers to wield arms overseas, but not at home. Military bases are just the newest shooting galleries.

    • Wake Up

      Your certainty is not a certainty — it is paranoia (an irrational fear not based on reality). Their is no evidence that more carry permits stop mass shootings. In fact, in the case I used as an example (the Giffords shooting) there were people around with carry permits (Mr. Zamodio for one) and the shooting still happened. It was not someone with a carry permit that stopped that shooting. It was unarmed citizens that took down the shooter. I know this example does not fit into the NRA narrative, but, reality seldom does fit their narrative!

      • Charley Vu

        http://www.kgw.com/news/4-injured-in-overnight-SE-Portland-strip-club-shooting–239825561.html

        ccw permit holder (the guard) – stops an active shooter.

        1. In Pearl, Mississippi in 1997, 16-year-old Luke Woodham stabbed and bludgeoned to death his mother at home, then killed two students and injured seven at his high school. As he was leaving the school, he was stopped by Assistant Principal Joel Myrick, who had gone out to get a handgun from his car. I have seen sources that state that Woodham was on the way to Pearl Junior High School to continue shooting, though I couldn’t find any contemporaneous news articles that so state.

        2. In Edinboro, Pennsylvania in 1998, 14-year-old Andrew Wurst shot and killed a teacher at a school dance, and shot and injured several other students. He had just left the dance hall, carrying his gun — possibly to attack more people, though the stories that I’ve seen are unclear — when he was confronted by the dance hall owner James Strand, who lived next door and kept a shotgun at home. It’s not clear whether Wurst was planning to kill others, would have gotten into a gun battle with the police, or would have otherwise killed more people had Strand not stopped him.

        3. In Winnemucca, Nevada in 2008, Ernesto Villagomez killed two people and wounded two others in a bar filled with three hundred people. He was then shot and killed by a patron who was carrying a gun (and had a concealed carry license). It’s not clear whether Villagomez would have killed more people; the killings were apparently the result of a family feud, and I could see no information on whether Villagomez had more names on his list, nor could one tell whether he would have killed more people in trying to evade capture.

        4. In Colorado Springs in 2007, Matthew Murray killed four people at a church. He was then shot several times by Jeanne Assam, a church member, volunteer security guard, and former police officer (she had been dismissed by a police department 10 years before, and to my knowledge hadn’t worked as a police officer since). Murray, knocked down and badly wounded, killed himself; it is again not clear whether he would have killed more people had he not been wounded, but my guess is that he would have.

        http://www.volokh.com/2012/12/14/do-civilians-armed-with-guns-ever-capture-kill-or-otherwise-stop-mass-shooters/

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        “Their is no evidence that more carry permits stop mass shootings.”

        This is because mass shootings are so rare, and the % of people who have carry permits in any state is extremely small. Less than 1-2% of the population to cover an entire state. You’re more likely to get hit by lightning than run into a CCW permit holder.

        The self-fulfilling prophecy is already there and you made the wrong conclusion.

      • Charley Vu

        brownwoodtx dot com/news/local/article_851fd04a-db90-11e1-8237-0019bb2963f4.html

        Gun owner kills assailant who had already killed 3.

        Mass shooting is defined as 4+ dead or 6+ wounded.

      • Wake Up

        Charley, those cases are real. I never denied that fact. My point is that the more carry permits you have running around the more confusing the “battle field” becomes in an active shooter case. This discussion is about allowing many more people to run around armed. If more people start carrying, and pulling out guns in these events, the more difficult it will be for any one of them to “discern” who is a shooter and who is a good guy!

      • Liss Hébert Sterling

        >Your certainty is not a certainty — it is paranoia (an irrational fear not based on reality).

        Your reading comprehension is rather deficient. The certainty I referred to was the certainty that a mass shooter will do what mass shooters intend to do: shoot people. En masse.

        I understand the concept of ‘fog of war” and it’s always possible in a mass shooting the hero could be shot by another would be hero. Then someone innocent would be dead. But those are just possibilities. For sure, the shooter WILL shoot innocents. I guess you’re saying you wouldn’t accept a possibly bad outcome in exchange for a certainly bad outcome. Interesting thought process.

  • Charley Vu

    “the more confusing the “battle field” becomes in an active shooter case”

    Cops are already trained to anticipate armed civilians as well as their own in plainclothes or carrying off duty. It would be prudent to allow or even mandate civilians access to active shooter exercises to obtain/maintain a CCW permit.

  • Charley Vu

    “Just because Mr. Zamodio did it right does not mean all the additional carry permit owners would do it right. Also, he did not identify the target from his training. The unarmed citizens that took the shooter down yelled at him not to shot!”

    And just because idiots in Florida cannot handle themselves does not mean a majority of CCW permit holders will be irresponsible.

    Again, you prove my point – Zamudio was not hyped up or irresponsible enough to ignore civilians shouting “do not shoot!” CCW permit holders may face the exact same thing when it comes to a cop confronting them after a self-defense incident.

    Once again, Zamudio is to be commended for his self-control.

    Force-on-force scenario training should be mandatory for all concealed carry permit holders.

  • MAG

    More guns is not the answer more guns more died people more hearts are broken. This 2 amendment thing is some BS because when they wrote it they didn’t have guns that shoot 12 times in 12 seconds. It would take about 3 to 5 min between shots. You can’t go around saying anything you want to (1amendment) so why should you be able to carry a gun anywhere you want to doesn’t make any since. These guns are out of control along with the people that feel they need to carry one

    • Webley Silvernail

      The training standard for British Army redcoats armed with muzzle-loading muskets was 3 shots per minute, not “3-5 minutes per shot.” The US revolutionary army troops were possibly not trained to that standard, but had the advantage of not being forced to stand in neat rows to absorb enemy fire. The 2nd amendment, BTW, is not “BS” – it was written in case the American people had again to rise up to overthrow a tyrant. Shots per minute is as irrelevant now as it was to the constitution’s framers.

  • Pam

    It’s not more guns that we need to carry it’s more in depth screening of our soldiers when they get back from over seas to make sure they are ok physically and mentally. The last 2 shootings on Ft.Hood have been from soldiers with mental problems and yes one was a Pschiatrist but he went to war and he seen the dangers and by NO means am I condoling what either of them have done,but if we are going to blame someone put the blame where it’s rightfully belongs.Which is their chain of command going all they way up to congress for not making sure they got the proper screening. Why do I say thisyou ask? my husband gave 30 yrs. for his country and never got the proper screening and I am fighting his PTSD right now and he thinks there’s nothing wrong cause the military said so. Ask any doctor and they will tell that secluding yourself from your family and freinds angry over little things irregular sleep patterns are ALL SIGNS OF PTSD. What did the government do for him? oh you have a bad back here is 20% disability thanks for your 30 years of service don’t call us and we wont call you oh and by the way when you go see the Dr and the Dentist use the money from the 20% we aren’t taxing you on have a good life and get out my Army. If it weren’t for Operation Phantom Support, or the VFW I don’t think Veterans would get any help.

    • Charley Vu

      No medical test is 100% perfect to detect an imminent nutcase. That’s why guns are still needed to deal with those that turn up a false negative on the screening test.

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