Employees Claim Bounced Checks, Money Problems Inside Decatur EMS

DECATUR, Ala. (WHNT) — Employees at Decatur Emergency Medical Services claim  their payroll checks are bouncing and they are not being paid for time worked.

Kristi Graham has worked at Decatur EMS for more than six years, but over the last year she says several of her payroll checks have bounced.

“It hurts my feelings because they have lied to me, they have not be honest,” Graham told WHNT News 19 during an exclusive interview Friday evening.

Our newsroom has received other similar complaints from employees claiming payroll problems over the past few months. The governing body that oversees Decatur EMS will not confirm or deny if they are currently investigating any type of payroll problems within the organization. Graham says she has filed a complaint, but due to confidentially clause, the board can not discuss any ongoing investigations.

Decatur is one of two EMS services operating inside the city currently.

Graham fears she may lose her job for going public with her claim but says she fears if no one says anything, things will continue to get worse.

71 comments

  • andrewemt

    As a former employee I personally filed 3 complaints with the Alabama labor board. I also had a police report filed with Decatur PD. My insurance was taken out of my paychecks for over 6 months and not paid to the insurance company. Never received that money back from this company. Never received my promised vacation time. This company owes me over 3,000$ that I will probably never see. I had to pay my workers comp bills because the company couldn’t do it.

  • girlyemt

    I think the citizens of Decatur should be OUT RAGED at the idea of their emergency workers being treated in such a way. If their emergency workers are worried about how they can make rent then they can’t possibly be focused on you as a patient. What people don’t understand is that EMS does not receive any funding from states or government like police and fire do. Ems companies are privately owned and operated and contracted to work within a city as a privilege, not as a funded role in the community.

    • Msmedic

      I concur on everything BUT the fact that our attention is diverted from the care of the patient. That is the ONLY reason we show up. It’s sure not because we get paid. I assure you that the citizens we serve are not getting less from us because of this.

    • medic3197

      Not all EMS companies are privately owned. As for this affecting your pt care: If it does, you are in the wrong business. We all have personal problems to one extent or another, but it is our job to do right by the people we treat.. If you can’t it is probably time to go to the house.

    • Wake Up

      This is the privatization/deregulation of public services at its best. Good thing we do not privatize police and fire like this or we would really have a mess!!!

  • Bigboyemt

    Glad this is finally coming out. I also worked there and almost every check bounced for the few months I put up with it…….

  • Msmedic

    I am currently employed at Decatur EMS and I can confirm that there was not money in the payroll account to honor 6 of my last 7 checks. We have been forced to seek alternative cashing methods to be able to have cash to pay our bills. This includes check cashing organizations and gas stations. We hate to do this knowing the checks are no good but we have bills to pay and children to feed. There are no longer any gas stations that will honor his checks in Decatur and any check cashing company that runs computer checks decline them as well. Alabama law states he has 10 days to make good on his checks once she’s been made aware they are not good. Sometimes this happens, sometimes not. There are several has stations who’s managers have told us they have filed law suits against Dr. Roger Stanmore, who owns the company, and hoards the money. This is very real and very frustrating to us, yet we still show up and work to make sure the community is covered.

    • Tony

      Yep, they like to funnel their money for one place to another. I used to work there as a delivery man, and learned first hand what was going on.

  • decaturcitizen

    I say out with decatur ems. First response has the capability to ensure that the city is more than adequately covered at all times, and they are much more professional. They show up very quickly and with equipment that actually works the way its supposed to. Its time to ditch the company that can’t pay its bills and lets get ems in this city to a level that its citizens deserve.

    • Alamedic

      I have never worked for DEMSI but I did work for a company that the managers of first response ran. I had more than one check bounce on top of all the unethical things they asked me to do. Decatur/ Morgan county would be much better off without either of these services.

  • Msmedic

    Oh and don’t forget all of the late fees and insufficient fund fees we pay when we can’t pay our bills on time and our checks bounce.

  • Notyourmedicnow

    As a former employee that was fired or let’s say “administrative leave” for expressing my opinion to them about my check bouncing then being Blamed myself for the situation. I was also off the clock when my opinion was express but was punished anyways.. But if u can’t pay ur employees ad they go without food and money for extended periods of time what do u expect.. I also with the others contest these statements are true!!! If u can’t pay ur employees let someone take over ur company that can.. Good day and God bless

  • Shorty

    They are known to let go staff for expressing their opinons about suitations reguarding their lost of benefits or their checks bouncing to the public. I am proud that Mrs. Graham took a stand at a risk of losing her job like other people that use to work there. Their are really good EMTs and Paramedics that work there that are stuck in a horrible work place.

  • movedon

    I also worked for Decatur EMS and this is no new issue. I do agree with most comments made except for the statement of being stuck in a horrible to work. As far as employees, medics, basics and one of the best operations manager for can ask for it is by far my favorite service that I have been employed at. I hated to leave but just as everyone else Ihad ran out of options and had to make sure I had a good check so I could take care of my children. It is sad that one greety man has done this to such a wonderful and gifted group of people.

  • Notyourmedicnow

    I also agree as of operations managers go he is the best!!!! Couldn’t ask for a better man to run the operations and the employees some of the best in the business they are a great ems provider but the owner needs to get off his high horse and share that pay check he is getting

  • Khamesha Grimes

    I too am a former employee of this company. It’s a down right crime to work a person 40 plus hrs a week with no promise to pay us. The owner is a crook. ITS MY MONEY AND I WANT IT NOW.

  • Msmedic

    I used to work for First Response. The Equipment is comparable. While they flood the city during the day they provided the same amount if coverage at night. Additionally, at least half of the trucks on the road during the day are BASIC trucks running mainly transfers, discharges, and dialysis patients. Additionally, the have some how managed to avoid all overtimes laws and do not pay their employees OT. In a 72hr workweek that’s a lot if money lost. They say it’s because the employees voted to forgo OT in order for the company to pay $150 towards insurance. First if all, not everyone agreed
    And second what a position to put your employees in!!! Either way how can émigrés vote to supersede the law? Things aren’t always what they seem. Know the facts before you call for people to loose their jobs.

  • Msmedic

    And before you think “bitter ex-emoter” know that most if us have worked for multiple EMS agencies and make those moves for different reasons. The vast majority if us work for two services at the same time to make ends meet.

  • Kim Perry

    I am a Paramedic with Decatur EMS. I bring to the table 20 years of pre-hospital care experience. During that time I have come to know personally many of the employees at both Companies. I can assure the citizen of Decatur that when we show up, wether it is in a white ambulance or a yellow, you are getting the very best care we have to offer. When you factor in the awesome paramedics from Decatur Fire that respond with both services, I’d wager that you are getting exactly what you need. Decatur Fire governs the EMS board that ensures that. All companies have secrets. Please don’t let the mismanagement and questionable practices from entities most of us at both services have never met be confused with the level of care those of us with boots on the ground provide!

  • fremt

    I have worked at both services and would like to say that there is a big difference in the two. With First Response EMS you have an owner, COO, and operations manager who are there daily that you can actually speak with and sit down and talk to if there is an issue. You do not have to make a phone call to Huntsville where the corporate office is. They actually operate out of the City of Decatur for the City of Decatur. The comment was made that the extra trucks that First Response EMS has on during the are basic trucks YES but with the addition of having the basic trucks on this allows First Response EMS to limit the number of basic transports that their emergency trucks are on. The city states each service must provide at a minimum 2 24 hour trucks and 1 12 hour truck. Yes both companies do this. But in addition to that First Response will on average add 2-3 basic trucks and 1-2 emergency trucks during the day for the higher call volume times. The city states that each service must have at least 2 emergency trucks over the night time period and both do. So during the these extra only basic trucks for First Response keep their emergency responding trucks less likely tied up on non emergency transports which Decatur EMS do not do and limits the availability for them to have an emergency truck available when it might be needed. So these just basic trucks are a very valuable being on the road to the citizens of Decatur because they are not only providing them with the services they need but also allowing the city to have better coverage of emergency ambulances that are not tied up on non emergency calls. First Response has also started working on and putting on the streets a 3rd emergency truck at night to better keep the city covered.
    So when you want to make the statement they are just basic trucks and try to make it sound like to others that the basic trucks do not impact the difference in what the emergency trucks can provide to the people of Decatur.
    I think the company that is putting out more then just the minimum that the city says you have to have to be able to operate with in their city is showing they want to provide more for the city then the one that does just enough to get by with just what they have to have.

    • medic3197

      So is your solution to fire all of Decatur EMS and only allow First Response to operate? Don’t let the actions of the owner cloud the fact that there are still people working for “the other company” that come to work every day knowing that they may not get paid when and how they are supposed to. They are dedicated to their job and to the people of Decatur, and that says a lot in my book!

      • fremt

        I know for fact that anyone leaving demsi from these issues would/will be welcome and employed with open arms at First Response because yes demsi does have good employees the do deserve to get paid for the work they do.

  • emsfan

    I currently work at Decatur EMS and it truly is a company full of great employees. The only problems that we truly encounter is our checks being worhtless. Our checks can’t even be cashed at Walmart, they decline them every time. We are truly skilled in what we do and we all love working together and in the city of Decatur. The only options that we have been provided is to get another job or go without pay for numerous days at a time. The payroll account never has money in it and when it does, its only enough to cash one or two checks. The only other problem we have is the other service tries to steal our calls away from and go talk with our scheduled patients (for dialysis, transports, etc.) in their rooms at their medical facility. The service will go to the local hospitals, nursing homes, and even try to get our patients to use their service while they are undergoing dialysis treatment. Decatur EMS is a wonderful and skilled service. We deserve to keep our jobs, stay in the city and provide care, and get our pay. Please remember that we are just doing our jobs. We would love to be able to serve the community free of charge, but this is job. We all have worked hard to get our licenses and deserve to be compensated, especially when we are spending time away from family. On holidays we are here for you, the citizens of Decatur and Morgan County, We take time away from our family to be here to serve you and possibly save your life or your loved ones.

  • emsfan

    Decatur EMS always has an emergency ALS truck available. In the past few months, we have not been able to keep a BLS truck in service, due to problems with our payroll. If DEMSI has BLS transports, we set one truck aside to run 911 calls. We are always available for 911s and we always will be. In the past week we have had a BLS truck in service and have covered our calls. It has been recorded by our dispatch that calls are being dispatched as “Emergency” by our local hospitals, when they are truly NON-Emergency. When they do this, it allows the closest truck to get the call. The hospitals only do this when it favors First Response. We stay fair to our fellow service and they should too. We are just as good as they are and we can handle our own, just like they can. We are a well deserved and focused service. We have been operating here for over 16 years and would love to stay here. We were here first and we deserve to stay.

    • concerned Medic

      I have been actively working in EMS here in North Alabama for over 20 years. The old saying that history repeats itself can be said about this situation. Almost the same thing happened 16 years ago when Decatur EMS opened and competed with A MR (American Medical Response). The city of Decatur was not able to financially support to ambulance services then. Decatur EMS took some businesses away from AMR, which in turn eventually led to AMR having to close. Since that time Decatur EMS had everything in the city and apparently the owner became greedy. Now enters First Response EMS, and in just over a year and a half, look what has happened. I think the officials of the city of Decatur are now learning what they ultimately new was true years ago. Yes, competition between services in the city can be food for it’s citizens, especially by having more ambulances on the road, But let’s remember that there has to be something to pay for all those ambulaces. With the changing health care laws drastically affecting collections, how are two ambulance providers going to be able to both keep their companies up and running. Running a privatized ambulance service isn’t cheap, especially when they are not subsidized in the area that they are operating in. I hope that the governing bodies that are supposed to oversee both services in Decatur are learning a lesson about now. Ultimately the city should step in and put a stop to all this and realize that there should be only one ambulance service allowed to operate in the city of Decatur. I applaud Mrs. Graham for having to courage to talk directly to the media, despite the fact that she probably is fired by now. As the above comment states, we are all brothers and sisters in this big EMS family, so why don’t the employees from Decatur EMS just walk out and go across the street to First Response, where there is always money in payroll and the same hard working employees there doing the same job. I would be willing to bet that First Response would hire almost everyone of them whenever they decide that they would like to get paid, and get paid on time. Maybe Decatur EMS should just go on strike or have a massive walk out. That might actually get the city of Decatur’s leaders attention. Bottom line…..history repeats itself, but this time it appears that Decatur EMS is well on their way to meeting the same fate as AMR due to poor management and lack of call volume to pay their employees and operate their company.

      • medic3197

        This has been going on long before FR came into the picture. They are a non-factor when it comes to this.

  • Jaymedic

    I am a former medic/supervisor that was with Decatur full-time and part-time for a total of almost 15 years. I have seen a lot over the years. Good employees came and left for different reasons. Everyone knows the owner is greedy and that has never changed. The employees have suffered long, busy hours and sometimes not getting paid. But they always show up the next shift because they have that drive, that oath they took to take care of their patients. Just like every person for every service does. Every service has things they could improve on and have their own skeletons in their closet. But to say out with a service which means lost jobs of hard working, dedicated people with their families and children at home, shame in you. No matter what uniform you wear, we are all brothers and sisters and this EMS company bashing needs to stop. Yes, the basic trucks do exactly what was stated above and are very vital for the city. But as long as there are two services, that is just that much more coverage and help for the citizens of Decatur. Yes ALOT needs to change for the better with Decatur EMS, but don’t punish the employees who give their all, miss time with their own families to take care of strangers. And yes that is part of it. I left there because I could no longer handle how the crews were being treated. Over worked and under paid, and lately if they get paid at all. But they still show up to work the next day. To me, that says ALOT!!! With the owners, it’s about getting all the calls, about the money, being the only service. Well, if it really is about providing the citizens of Decatur with the most coverage and care, why can these two services not get along and meet in the middle and back each other?! Not talking about money here, talking about taking care of patients and taking care of out brother and sister EMTS/PARAMEDICS!! My one wish is for one day to see this happen. Then, it would be a much better world. How can we honestly give strangers out best care and undivided attention, but can’t help our own EMS family. Smh

  • fremt

    Just a small fun fact for all and the one that made comment about the extra trucks were just basic trucks. Since First Response emergency trucks were not tied up on non emergency calls due to their basic trucks First Response EMS ran 88% of all 911 emergency calls last month for the City of Decatur per their numbers.

  • Medicbychoice

    Ok people this is getting ridiculous this is bout employees not being paid by their greedy employer, not about what company runs how many calls or what company has this and that!!! If u can’t be nice and support fellow ems personel rather family u need to find a new career, u from first response that is just using this as a way to bad mouth Decatur EMS just to make ur company look Better that’s just sorry this isn’t about you and never will be this is about the employees of DEMSI calm urselves!!! Have respect

  • bamamedic

    By the looks of it first response is using this to try and make themselves look better well it doesnt this is about employees going unpaid for a stressful job not to mention the added stress of how to pay their bills and put food on the table for their kids shame on both companies

  • honestmedic

    As I employee for one of the two services I have to disagree with you emsfan Decatur ems has calls that roll after 30 minutes all the time yes you have 1 truck available for 911 but that’s because its the city ordinance to keep one ambulance available from each service. Let’s please also remember that this story became available due to the fact that a Decatur ems employee can forward since she hasn’t gotten paid. First response has never had an issue paying its employees and the have gone above and beyond in several cases to make sure their employees are take care of. They are not perfect by any means but there are almost never a rolled call due to having only one truck available.
    We should be working as a team versus this petty back and forth it should be what can we do to fix this situation. I’m sure that if the Decatur ems employees decided to make a stand and join first response they would be welcomed with open arms and have jobs, since ems is one big family. The question you should be asking is how much longer are you going to take not getting paid until you decide enough is enough?

    • emsfan

      False. First response has had issues paying employees, due to their own negligence. I know of at least three who have applied at Decatur EMS, because they are tired of it. It is not about who the best service is. It is about DEMSI employees not getting their dues. If First Response wants to use this opportunity to play immature games, so be it. The only reason many of us went to the news about this is so something will be done about it. We honestly don’t care that First Response is here and I actually get along with all of you. Therefore, I suggest you do the same. We are a family, all of EMS. However, just to straighten out your comment, I personally know of two FR employees who left because they weren’t getting paid their overtime, which is illegal. I also know of one who was interested in leaving FR to come to DEMSI.

    • 1iemt

      It wasn’t that she didn’t get paid, she said her payroll check bounced. She did forget to mention that she was always paid for her returned check and all fees were paid. I too have worked for the company, and ALWAYS have been paid above and beyond what my original check was. Usually the day I went to the office and asked for my check to be fixed. I’m not saying it’s right that the checks bounce, but unless things have changed since I worked there, We were always reimbursed and all fees were paid.

      • harleysmom

        GUESS WHAT???? THINGS HAVE CHANGED!!!! I WORKED THERE FOR 8 YEARS AND THINGS WENT DOWN HILL YEAR AFTER YEAR! I STARTED TAKIING MY CHECK TO THE BANK(S) THAT IT WAS WRITTEN ON TO CASH IT SO THAT IT WOULD NOT BOUNCE! AND THE BANKS CHANGED EVERY MONTH! THE BANK ALWAYS CHARGED A FEE IF YOU DIDN’T HAVE AN ACCOUNT WITH THEM, AND GUESS WHO HAD TO PAY THAT FEE??? ME! STANMORE STILL OWES ME 3 WEEKS VACATION, 8 YEARS OVERTIME, AND A LOT MORE! HE IS A CROOK!!!!

  • emsfab

    First response hasn’t had problems paying employees? Then why is it that employees from there are leaving due to pay and not getting their over time? I know 3 that have left there due to those reasons.

  • Tony Dix (@toradi2)

    Take your bounced check down to the main office, tell them you want a new check plus $25, plus the bank fee. I did that and my check didn’t bounce anymore. The first few to the bank to cash your check has a better chance to get the money.

  • bamamedic

    As I said before the employees from first response using this unfortunate story about the other company employees to make it look likethey are a better company makes me wonder what they are trying to hide and seeing their employees do this I would not want them anywhere near me

  • mandy

    The owners are also lawyers and doctors. They know how to get away with things. They also own Gadsden etowah ems and do their employees the same way. If they try to report they get fired. Something has to give. This isn’t right. Either way the employees are not getting paid wether it be cause their checks are bouncing or if they try to speak up and get fired. Crooks!!!!!

  • Old medic

    As a 25year veteran of North Alabama EMS. ( MEANING I have worked for Ambulance Services from hemsi, Hartselle, HART, Medic One, Life Care, and Lawrence county.) There has always been trouble in Morgan County as far as EMS goes. If the county comition gave one flip about the people of their county they would fix this problem.

  • proudtobeyourmedic

    Goodness…. Y’all this isn’t about which company is better than the other and who provides what. Please quit bashing one another. We are all supposed to be a family of EMS brothers and sisters. Enough of the bickering.. we are all here to do a job and need to work together to do it. The city of Decatur can support both companies if they would just choose to work together and not be constantly coming up with ways of harassing one another. This was simply about one company with a greedy owner not paying employees, not about quality of care and who has what. Both companies have their own issues. Enough is enough.. Lets all work together to provide the citizens of Decatur with the best care that we can. I will say I think it really shows dedication to our profession and to the citizens when someone shows up for work and still provides care to the best of their ability when you know you will not be paid on time or at all.

  • 1iemt

    At the end of the day these employees all work for a paycheck., ths is cashable and won’t return This disgruntled employee left a few months back knowing the situation, yet she went back to work for them. She knew there was an issue, why did she go back? Seems like she likes to keep stuff stirred up. Shoals EMS beware, she bad mouth’s you all too.

  • jpcode1

    My original post went as a reply, so for the ones who didn’t see it, here it is again.

    I have been actively working in EMS here in North Alabama for over 20 years. The old saying that history repeats itself can be said about this situation. Almost the same thing happened 16 years ago when Decatur EMS opened and competed with A MR (American Medical Response). The city of Decatur was not able to financially support to ambulance services then. Decatur EMS took some businesses away from AMR, which in turn eventually led to AMR having to close. Since that time Decatur EMS had everything in the city and apparently the owner became greedy. Now enters First Response EMS, and in just over a year and a half, look what has happened. I think the officials of the city of Decatur are now learning what they ultimately new was true years ago. Yes, competition between services in the city can be food for it’s citizens, especially by having more ambulances on the road, But let’s remember that there has to be something to pay for all those ambulaces. With the changing health care laws drastically affecting collections, how are two ambulance providers going to be able to both keep their companies up and running. Running a privatized ambulance service isn’t cheap, especially when they are not subsidized in the area that they are operating in. I hope that the governing bodies that are supposed to oversee both services in Decatur are learning a lesson about now. Ultimately the city should step in and put a stop to all this and realize that there should be only one ambulance service allowed to operate in the city of Decatur. I applaud Mrs. Graham for having to courage to talk directly to the media, despite the fact that she probably is fired by now. As the above comment states, we are all brothers and sisters in this big EMS family, so why don’t the employees from Decatur EMS just walk out and go across the street to First Response, where there is always money in payroll and the same hard working employees there doing the same job. I would be willing to bet that First Response would hire almost everyone of them whenever they decide that they would like to get paid, and get paid on time. Maybe Decatur EMS should just go on strike or have a massive walk out. That might actually get the city of Decatur’s leaders attention. Bottom line…..history repeats itself, but this time it appears that Decatur EMS is well on their way to meeting the same fate as AMR due to poor management and lack of call volume to pay their employees and operate their company.

  • ems_mom

    I am too familiar with Roger Stanmore. He owns Gadsden-Etowah Ems in Gadsden and the employees dont even get bad checks. They can go as long as 3weeks with NO PAY!! How is this justified. This particular location has been having payroll issues fow way over a year. The so called office manager will lie to your face knowing excatly what is going on. She works clise to Stanmore and I mean very closee. she never missrs her check!! hmmmm…. I think if the right person gies to the right lawyer the companies may looose everything. just saying and just so you know I am a former employee @ Gadsden–Etowah Em

    • Tony

      What dispatcher said, Miss S gets her check. All checks to all his companies are/or where printed a Gadsden-Etowah Ems. Management got theirs first & first to the bank and what was left over well went to others.

  • formerEMT

    I think that some people have it a bit backwards this conversations was about how someone could let their employees go without being paid but like usual it turns into a mudslinging competition. The facts are first response does pay its employees, pays them on time and their checks never bounce. It was up to the employees to get paid overtime or not. However demsi hasn’t been paying its employees on time or have been paid. I see where you take pride in the company and stand behind it but the question should be when is enough going to be enough? This has been an issue since 2008 and it hasn’t changed. Let’s remember that it was a demsi employee that came forward not first response. Best of luck to you ladies and gentlemen who are trying to get paid I hope this matter gets resolved.

  • happygolucky

    Why doesn’t the employees of demsi stage a walk out? Strike would make the owner stand up and notice. As a resident of Decatur I have dealt with hardship and I can say that Decatur ems employees are coming across a bit to strong on their attitude in these comments. Good job Mrs graham on standing up and saying what kinda issues you have been dealing with.

  • Dispatcher

    I too am a former employee of Gadsden Etowah EMS. I have contacted this station along with other stations for this same issue. The employees can’t speak out because they risk losing there jobs. I found work elsewhere so I’ve been doing all I can to make “noise” in there behalf. It’s a SHAME that they go weeks without getting there checks, or if they get them they bounce or only a select few get them because they only release small amounts of money. Roger Stanmore is a sad excuse of a man, he is one who hurts is employees not only by not paying them, lying to them and let’s talk about completely messing up people’s credit because they can’t pay there bills on time because they didn’t get paid!!!! With the way the economy is many live pay check to pay check, when you agree to go to work for a company in return you expect to get paid. Well as long as THAT MAN owns the company things will not change. The operations manager at GEEMS is an unbelievable man to work for. Jonathan Lewis goes far beyond what he has to, to keep that place going. He takes money out of his own pocket to try and keeps the ambulances running and if someone needs gas he will do what he can to help til they get there check and can pay him back. As far as the “OTHER” the office manager, well let’s just say we know she will do what she has to to get her check before the ones helping loved ones in the community get there’s. The EMS crew are awesome, they stick together like a family and do what they can to keep things going and keep each other going. ROGER STANMORE has AMAZING employees he’s just to ignorant to see that. ROGER STANMORE…. YOU DONT TREAT YOUR EMPLOYEES LIKE THAT. THEY BEND OVER BACKWARDS TO KEEP THINGS GOING FOR AN UNAPPRECIATIVE MAN!!!!!!

  • redneck medic

    Being that I have worked for both agencies. I can honestly say that Stan more does not pay his employees as he should. I worked for him for about 6 months & after I received a bad check for about the 6th time enough was enough. I agree with some of the rest of the comments, stop badmouthing. And pay your employees what they have rightfully earned!

  • Sheryl

    The same man owns one of the ambulance services in Gadsden. Same things happening there too. And has been for years

  • emtfordecatur

    I am also an employee of Demsi I have been there for three years!! I am dedicated to the company and will always be. Just to let everybody know yes there have been issues with the checks, but we have always got our money! I hate the way the media is always one sided and does not tell the whole story. When our checks bounce they are always taken care of along with NSF fees and even a little extra. I just wish everyone would realise that every ems company has issues. We are not the only ones that have had problems and yes I mean with pay!!!! Other companies have had the similar issues. I love Demsi it is my full time job,an the way I help provide for my family. Things are changing there and I hope that one person that has spoke negative about us does not have affect on that. The grass is not always greener on the other side. There are problems in every ambulance company. Everyone just seems to be focused on us.

  • emsfab

    To all you people saying that they should walk out and have a massive strike….know your facts…it is illegal to do so and they would lose their license…it’s called abandonment. Why would you want them to abandon their trucks and leave the city with less coverage? People need to realize that this is unfortunate yes…but be aware that the people working for this company are dedicated and hard working. It is also most employees only job. So before you bash how about you put yourself in the position of fearing for your job and not having money to pay your bills.

  • happygolucky

    Emsfab….really now? Please tell me you don’t work on people…it is not abandonement. Its only abandonment when there is a patient in your care. I truly hope you go back and read your ems rules I believe it was in your basic EMT handbook aka your textbook.

  • emsfab

    Yes really. State classifies that abandoning your truck is abandonment. There is narcotics on the truck and abandoning those and the equipment is considered negligence and abandonment. Those rules don’t apply to just patients and patient care. Looks like your luck ran out, sunshine. ;)

  • Staci Walker

    Decatur EMS owes my family member at least $600 and made him miss his first daughters first Halloween.. He worked 2 jobs at the time to provide for his family and these awful people can’t pay him for what he did.. These people are CRAP and they need to pay up, or shut down. About time this come out to the open.

  • Anthony Johnson

    All great comments. Bottom line, unless you’re a volunteer, employees are hired to do a job and employers are required to pay the employee ON TIME!!! No excuses.

  • decaturman

    Hey emsfab why are you trying to spin this off the topic of what’s at hand? Its clear as day that is lady had an issue of getting paid. Kudos to her for standing up. Wish their were more people in the world that would speak up when there is injustice

  • andrewemt

    To the people who are defending the pay check issue by saying that the checks eventually get paid. I along with at least 4 other people that I know of are still waiting on reimbursement for insurance, vacation, medical bills, and unpaid workers comp. So yeah they may make the paychecks right eventually but what about the thousands of dollars owed to each of us that they keep promising to take care of?

  • Drew

    This also goes for Gadsden-Etowah EMS. I am a former employee there and they also have had a large number of bounced checks or held checks all together. They are also owned/ran by Dr Stanmore.

  • Justanothermedic

    How did this turn into a battle bashing employees of both companies? I work at first response, and happy I have a job and have not faced these issues… However I will tell you there are some awesome medics and some I call close friends at Decatur ems . The color of our shirt or truck doesn’t matter!!!! We all do this job because we love it but we need to pay bills too! I have worked at Decatur ems in the past and loved my job there too, although that was before these issues. I say stop arguing over who gets calls, why one should close, or who provides better coverage or care! Pray for each other in this time and reach out and join together as the EMS family we claim to be and help each other!!!!!!!

  • crazedhairhopper

    as an outsider married to a paramedic, i know a good number of you. and have had most of you in my chair a time or two. what i am hearing is a couple common threads. 1)the owner of said establishment is a poor busness man and an even worse boss. i have been told stories of how he encourages discourse within his own company. at required events and employee sponsored events he bairly makes an effort to do anything more than show up or give encouragment to his employees. and when he does show its with questionable people as his guests. while its non of my buisness who he cohorts with, you keep your personal life out of your buisness. 2) this is not something new. apparently it happens alot and a number of services from time to time. and one other service comes to mind that failed due to mis managment and failure to pay its employees. my husband and i went through a period where he was not paid on time or not paid at all. it strained our marrage, straind our finances to the point that we may not be able to buy our first home for a few years later than we had hoped. hell we had for go christmas to pay our bills. and it really chaps my ass when my husband comes home from work worn, tired, hungry and tears in his eyes to tell me, we cant do xyz because i didnt get paid. my husband loves what he does and is damn good at what he does. he is the medic that other medics want work on them and there familys. but when he looks at me and says, i dont want to be medic anymore because i cant trust i am going to get paid or paid on time. it tears my heart out. all because this so called owner cant pay his bills or is greedy and could care less. i find it shameful. in the last two months that payroll has been late we have paid close to 500.00 in late fees to our creditors and 200.00 in overdrafts with our bank. not to mention depleated our savings. this is not a question of what service is better or who has better employees. its about a buisness owner paying his bills and employees. clearly this dr. stanmore got into the medical profession for the wrong reason. whats is truly sad is the fact that these men and women work hard and have to continue to working in hopes that they get paid. or stretch what little time they get with there familys to work a second service to make up what they lose. thats not living, its slavery and sapposedly that was outlawed years ago.

  • outsider looking in.......

    It is so wrong that Stanmore has done this to his employees and no its not about the services but the mistreatment of the emts and medic. But why not leave Stanmore? I know the other company would hire and take care of them much better.

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